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Thank you from the bottom of our hearts.

Don Gagnon (EAL 30 year employee)

and Dorothy Gagnon, Friend of Eastern, Host, Webmaster

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Review of the Episode 337, "EAL Seniority Lists"

The Episode the EAL Radio Show had Monday evening, "The EAL Seniority Lists" was a great program with lots of interesting stories shared not only from our Hosts but from our listeners who called into the show. The Seniority lists meant a great deal to most of the Eastern employees, as we heard throughout the evening, with discussions from each type of category that Eastern had that used these lists.

Some employees, like Captain Neal, carried their list every where they went to ensure that at any time a position opened up, they could take their list out to check where they were in the lineup. Neal shared his stories and we were happy to hear his thoughts.

Whether it be to another job, position, or sometimes in the case of losing one of our Eastern Family, those lists meant a great deal to most of them. Pilots wanted different aircraft to fly, or be placed in the left seat, while maintenance, flight engineers, mechanics, F/As has other reasons they chose to watch their Seniority Lists; be it for a higher paying job, or better hours, or a better flight route.

Chuck Allbright gave us a wonderful history on the mechanics seniority lists and we heard lots of details that some of us haven't heard in the past. Jim Holder, Estan Fuller, George Jehn, and Al Jenkins all shared their stories, too, and we had lots of laughter from all of them. Great job.

It was wonderful hearing all of them share their individual stories that brought laughter to our ears, as well as some that brought us tears. We loved the memories shared by one of our Hosts, Linda Fuller, former EAL F/A who gave us some history on the Seniority List and what it meant to an F/A and also on how she and Estan "found" each other. A Great memory that Linda shared, and it was terrific hearing the love and excitement in her voice. Estan you sure are a lucky guy, and Linda you found a gem, so hold onto him tight! Thanks for sharing.

Thank you, Captain Neal, for giving us such a wonderful evening. We loved hearing everyone share their experiences and all the laughter with us. Great Show!

Dorothy and Don Gagnon
From: normajean borger
To: Capt Neal; Dorothy; George; Jim Holder; Charles Allbright
Subject: Seniority lists at EAL
Date: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 9:05:47 AM

Monday radio show was a reminder of our other life and times gone by. The mechanics really did get into the nitty, gritty of details. And, the shop stewards had to walk a fine line.

When I transferred to MCO in 1977, it was an education of how feuds began among The mechanics. However, by the time they were able to transfer into a coveted " senior" Station of MCO or TPA, the testosterone was not what it was in their younger years. So most were amiable and understood the ramifications of any anger they were feeling.
Several times I heard stories and asked my boss, Cort Waller, maintenance manager, "How is that possible or "fair". His answers was always the same. It does not matter If it is "fair"--"it is in the contract"

Have missed a couple of shows lately due to husband's illness and hospitalizations.

Keep up the good work



Reviews: "The Wings of Man: The Eastern Airlines Experience" Episode 336

October 11, 2017 Review of Episode 336 Aired on October 9, 2017

The Georgia State University Library Exhibit;

 “The Wings of Man: The Eastern Air Lines Experience”


Ms. Traci Jo Drummond CA, is the archivist for the Southern Labor Archives at the Georgia State University Library, and was Guest Host for Episode 336 Monday evening, October 9 where she presented a wonderful program of the highlights the Library Exhibit; The Wings of Man: The Eastern Air Lines Experience being held at the Atlanta, GA campus. We truly enjoyed the history of how Georgia State received all the Eastern Airlines memorabilia, papers, destination documents, videos of the Eastern’ Commercials done by Orson Welles, along with other materials and artifacts such as small planes, wings, serving ware, F/A collection of training slides, etc. that were donated to the Archives back in 1991 by the Atlanta office of Eastern Airlines when it ceased operations.


Traci reached out to other Eastern people, as well as Martha Hamilton, Washington Post Reporter, and Adrienne Cohen, Copy writer and Advertising executive, Young and Rubicam, both who donated items. They worked with her and her team to bring this Exhibit and make it a reality at the University Library which will continue until June 2018. Click on this hyperlink: Eastern Air Lines Collections where they have a 5-panel exhibit and 3 standing panels that contain different materials from this “rich collection” that Eastern, Atlanta donated including an L-1011 Whisper jet plane and 2 smaller planes, F/A Uniforms from 1970s, and early and late1980s, etc . They also collected items in their Digital Collection of documentation from selected items and some from entire collections that were digitized:

Collective bargaining and mediation information taken from the Bill Usery papers; Usery, a former U. S. Secretary of Labor, was a mediator for Eastern in the 1980s

  • The Frank Borman papers chronicle through correspondence his work as the president of Eastern Air Lines in the late 1970s and 1980s
  • The Jim Ashlock collection includes Eastern’s annual reports, coverage of Eastern’s dissolution, Eastern television ads, and information about daily operations during the strike; Ashlock was a public relations specialist at Eastern from 1966-1991
  • Martha Hamilton, a Washington Post reporter who donated her notebooks, news clippings, and other items related to her coverage of Eastern 1989-1991
  • Adrienne Cohen, copy writer and advertising executive, donated copies of her ad work for Eastern which features radio and print ads, including “The Wings of Man” radio commercial series featuring Orson Welles from the early 1970sThe records of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, who represented the ground crew at Eastern, include recordings of television coverage of the strike, collective bargaining agreements, and photographs of daily operations at various locals
  • The papers of John Chaknis, a member of the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA), who collected materials related to ALPA’s sympathy strike with the Machinists
  • Carolyn Lee Wills, former director of the Eastern Airlines' Southern Region Public Relations Office, collected and donated press releases, photographs, newsletters, destination files, operations information, and a formidable collection of artifacts from Eastern Air Lines.


Dorothy Gagnon on behalf of Captain Neal and our EAL Radio Show Hosts.


From: roslynrush
To: EAL Radio Show <[email protected]>
Subject: Last Evening's Show
Date: Tue 10-10-2017 10:44 AM

Good Morning all…..

I listened in and enjoyed the show…..I certainly think Traci has probably done a phenomenal job putting this very complicated story together here in Atlanta for many reasons….Delta country for one…the EAL labor/management dispute for another, etc., etc. I know she said she was concentrating on the south’s labor; hence, it’s probably mostly artifacts, files from that side of the fence! She did apparently try to incorporate some from the ‘other’ side! I’m sure it’s an excellent display! At one point, one of your guests/hosts mentioned he would donate his book…..who was that and what is the name of the book?

Having worked at EAL for 30 years and also Delta for several months and American for a year….due to work stoppages and in the case of American the elimination of the small downtown city res offices that we had before automation and had so very many different jobs but all non-union, I, of course, may see things a bit differently. For most of that time - 22 years - I was a single mom of 2 children and I didn’t think I had a choice ….I certainly did not like what was happening and tried to see both sides and I still don’t know what truly brought our great airline to an end…..so many stories out there!!! I know one thing….we all loved our airline! I actually worked 2 weeks beyond the closing….and it was an extremely tough time…..God bless us all! Thanks for all you do and the upcoming episodes seem so interesting!!

Just a note on seniority….when I first started I had walked into the downtown PVD ticket office to question how to apply for a ‘stewardess’ position….just a little farm girl from Scituate, RI (Don Gagnon from same town)! I was too young but they hired me for the downtown ‘res’ center….that’s another whole story for another day…..there were different pay scales for the exact same job….men/women; the men were given first dibs on vacation time regardless of seniority and they were
also promoted over women regardless of seniority, work performance or anything else….it was a different world. Also, I lost 10 years in seniority when I had to stay in bed with a difficult pregnancy which culminated in the death of my infant son . My ‘boss’ at the time tried everything he could…..all my vacation time; sick leave; holidays….everything to come up with what I needed but it didn’t work so I had to resign but I was rehired later….another story for another day!!!

I should write a book…….you are all appreciated - Roslyn

Comments: Episode 335, The Silverliners and “Life After Eastern”

Review of the Special Episode 335
Monday, October 2, 2017
The Silverliners and “Life After Eastern”

Conni Leaf Kerrigan,  the Silverliners International President brought a panel of Silverliners to the program, spearheaded by Colleen DeFelice, a Silverliner who recently moved to the West Coast of Florida.

Neal opened the program and turned it over to Dorothy to read Colleen's impressive bio, and she introduced Colleen to the EAL Hosts and Listeners for the entire evening. Colleen successfully organized the ladies for all of us to hear each of their individual extensive backgrounds and professional education, of our former Eastern Flight Attendants. She opened the program by introducing each Silverliner with a short bio before they began telling us their "Life After Eastern." 

We heard from each of them and were very impressed with their professions that each one entered into after the closing of Eastern. They turned their disappointment and concerns when Eastern closed into a more positive attitude and recreated their new life, as all of the Eastern employees did after the doors closed at Eastern.

The night was filled with many memories and the Silverliners shared their memories they collected over the years they worked at Eastern and following years at the professions they chose.

We commend each and every one of the ladies for their endurance to turn around a negative situation and bring their very best abilities to make a wonderful and success career.

Our thanks and appreciation are extended wholeheartedly to Conni and Colleen for this wonderful program and our sincere thanks to each Silverliner that shared their old memories and gave us pictures of their new memories created in "Life After Eastern."

Stay tuned for the 1st quarter of 2018 to hear more from the Silverliners.
From: Constance Kerrigan
To: Everett Holland
Cc: Janice Henry, Adrienne Love,Patty; Jan Belland; Colleen DeFelice; Kristin Karg Ericson-Dibble
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Great Show

Neal, we loved doing it!

Our next show (sometime first quarter of 2018) will be hosted by Kris Ericson-Dibble, a former international president. The theme will be "After EAL-We Kept On Flying". Colleen has agreed to be our "official" coordinator with more guest hosts.

Would love to have you do a live broadcast, but please coordinate with Patty McLean as she is the Convention Chair next year as well. It is May 15-17 at the Wyndham in Jupiter, FL.

We so appreciate your support...so let me know how else we might help!

From: Everett Holland
To: Constance Kerrigan; Colleen DeFelice; Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Great Show
Date: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 12:51:06 PM

Conni, We're so happy you asked to do last night's show a while back. It was near perfect. with the "near" being my fault as producer. Let's do it again! Also, I would love to come to your next convention and do a live radio broadcast. We did one for REPA in Birmingham and it worked out great. They want us to do another one in Charleston next year. Colleen did a very professional job with the interview and it seemed each person had about the same amount of time and all were so very interesting. Conni, please pass along to the membership and those participating last night, the Radio Show's thanks for being with us. You're welcomed back anytime.

From: Michael Simses
To: constancekerrigan; Everett Holland
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 3:31 PM
Subject: Terrific show

Hi, Conni and Neal.

What a terrific show last night--congratulations to you both.

Wanted to check in: did Bill Hirsch ever manage to get in touch with former F/A Fay Merryweather? Is anyone in contact with her or Elaine Thornton? Many thanks for your help; hope you're feeling better, Conni!

From: Linda Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 9:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Silverliners Episode, Monday Evening, October 2, 2017

Dorothy, It was so good to hear Don's voice last night. :)

P.S. I enjoyed listening to the Silverliners last night. :)


Thank You from Don Gagnon For Your Calls, E-mails and Prayers

Dear Eastern Family,

A personal thanks to our Eastern friends who were gracious enough to continue to give their thoughts and prayers for Don on another trip to the hospital, and then another Thoracic surgery. This time the surgery was to remove fluid from a Congestive Heart Failure that stimulated from a very bad cough...caused extensive fluid and other issues. We thank God that we had good news, and again no signs of cancer causing this mass of fluid and internal bleeding (from the cough).

Don came home from the hospital September 28, and doing fine. We pray to God he will gain his strength back and join us at the microphone with all the other EAL Radio Show Hosts. Don sends his best to all of you and many, many thanks from the bottom of his heart for all those prayers.

My thanks are extended to all of you as well. We love your calls of concern and your e-mails and cards of well wishes. Knowing you care about him is wonderful, and we, too, feel the same way about you.

We love you Eastern!

Dorothy & Don Gagnon

Comments: Episode 334 "Hall of Fame, Captain Steve Thompson"

From: [email protected]
To: Gay
Cc: Neal Holland
Subject: Re: Plaque
Date: Friday, September 29, 2017 2:52:39 PM


Thank you for letting us know that your Mom received the Hall of Fame Tribute Award Plaque that Neal sent to her. The plaque, as you said, is very beautiful. We know it will always be so meaningful to Glenda and the family.
We were so happy to have all of the family join us for this wonderful tribute, and like you, we too appreciated the warmth, joy, tears and love you folks gave to all of us. We could hear that in the voices of every family member or
Eastern friend that spoke.

We are the ones who feel honored to have such a wonderful guy be on the EAL Radio Show Team of Hosts. Neal was so close to Steve and he too, was honored to have such a great Eastern friend and a wonderful host. Our thanks to all of you for participating to make the Hall of Fame Tribute such a great one.

Thanks again,
Dorothy on behalf of Captain Neal Holland
From: Gay Harvey
To: EAL Radio Show <[email protected]>
Subject: Plaque
Date: Fri 09-29-2017 10:17 AM

Hi Neal,

On behalf of our family, we want to thank you for honoring Dad this week. What a beautiful tribute! There were lots of laughter and tears in our family! It was truly a joy for us!

The plaque arrived today and we couldn’t be more pleased! Thank you so much! It will be a constant reminder to us of how much he loved and appreciated his EAL years and his EAL radio family! Please pass on our gratitude to all the radio show members,

With gratitude,
Gay Harvey and Glenda Thompson
From: Everett Holland

To: Ken Boring

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 1:24 PM,

Thanks, Ken.

It was a team  project and all did well.  We especially enjoyed your memories of Steve.  I sent the plaque out today to Glenda and family.  It was wonderful listening to the "kids" talk about their mom and dad.  I hope mine have something nice to say about me. 

I am so glad you are connected to the radio show.  You always have the most interesting comments.  I hope you will stay with us as long as you have time. 


From: Ken Boring
To: Everett Holland
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Tribute to Capt Steve

Thank you Neal for the kind words. I will always to be connected to the EAL Radio Show. It's part of who I am and everyone here is family. I just glad I found you guys when I did. And, when the day comes, we'll ALL have a lot to say about what a great guy you are and how you will always be in our hearts.

Congrats again on ushering Steve into Eastern's Hall of Fame

From: Dorothy Gagnon
To: ENealHolland, All Radio Show Hosts
Subject: Kudos for A Great Hall of Fame For Captain Steve Thompson
Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 5:35:32 PM

Dear Neal,

All of us in the Eastern Family are blessed that we have you to thank for giving the Eastern Family a gift of love with the amazing EAL Radio Show, and the fabulous Tribute of the EAL Radio Show Hall of Fame. Where would we be without you and all your efforts all these years to keep our Eastern Airlines together and so well- known through your radio program?Kudos to you and all our EAL Radio Show Hosts who continue to do such a great job. Such a fine group of loving

and giving people who play a major role in keeping our Eastern Family in the limelight. We are also blessed having
them join us every week.

Sincere love and thanks to you and to them.

Dorothy and Don

From: Ken Allen Boring
To: Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Steve's tribute
Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:22:05 PM

Thank you Dorothy for such a great show. You, Neal and the crew did a marvelous job with hosting and helping us to remember Steve and his career.

We're all praying for Don and for your health as well.

Thanks again for a great broadcast!!!
LLE, Ken
From: Ken Boring <[email protected]>
To: Everett Holland <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:16 PM
Subject: Tribute to Capt Steve

Thank you Neal for such a great show. You and your crew did a fabulous job. Steve would have been proud of everyone, but especially you! You are a great friend to all!!!

LLE, Ken

From: lynn rhinehardt
To: Everett Holland
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Hall of Fame


We would not miss this event for anything. Thank you very much for putting this together. This show was dear to Steve's heart. He would not miss the Monday show.



Comments: " Eastern Brats", August 28, 2017

Thank you Captain Neal for giving us "The Voice of Eastern Airlines"

Program reviews coming in on last night's program, August 28, 2017 on  "The Eastern Family And Their Eastern Brats" and we owe that all to you for the time and all the efforts you put into

making this show last evening "Spectacular"! Kudos, Captain Neal!

Dorothy, Webmaster/Host


From: Everett Holland
To: normajean; Dorothy
Subject: Re: Another Wonderful Radio Show.
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 7:35:51 AM

It was a very good show last night, and we'll probably do it again.

I guess the sound bite I chose for you was the right one. I love the plaque and maybe Dorothy can find a place on
the website for it. Thanks, Normajean for all your support.


From: Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Re: EAL Radio Show Broadcast "The Eastern Family And Their Eastern Brats"
Date: Tuesday 8/29/2017 12:18 PM

Dear Eastern family and "Eastern Brats",

"Thanks for the Memories"


Kudos for a wonderful program last evening on the EAL Radio Show, which is truly “The Voice of Eastern Airlines”. The love for Eastern heard in your voices certainly came across to all the listeners who learned what it was like for you as children, growing up as an “Eastern Brat”. You made the Eastern Family so proud of the wonderful stories you all shared from beginning to end. The 1½ hours flew by and anyone listening could “feel the warmth and love for Eastern” that emanated from your voices. You couldn’t wait to tell us your story and more importantly…we couldn’t wait to hear more and more of them.


Many of us continue to say how we love our beloved Eastern Airlines. You children that grew up in an Eastern Family showed it with your stories of wonderful remembrances of good times back then. Different memories you shared with the happiness and love for Eastern and memories never forgotten, that says it all.


A commercial for Eastern couldn’t have said it better. Your expressions with the stories you shared throughout the evening kept us enthralled and made us feel as though we were back then with you enjoying those days too. The more you remembered, the more we wanted to hear you share those memories. Each of you were so excited telling us how proud you felt being an “Eastern Brat”, we just loved it. As the parents of these children listening to their “happy and loved voices” you must know that you all did a wonderful job as parents during those years at Eastern.


There were folks listening like me, that missed growing up in an Eastern Family and got into the family long after Eastern closed. As you shared your individual stories, you made us wish we had grown up in that type of a family atmosphere too. You are children of Eastern Employees who loved their jobs and their company. It wasn’t put on in any way and never has been. The children of Eastern Airlines certainly carry the wonderful legacy that we all talk about daily in our lives. Listening to you all share your memories, gave us in the Eastern Family the comfort that we never have to worry about our Legacy not being told to the next generation and future generations to come. As they say, “You Got Our Backs” and we love you all dearly.


We invite you all back to share more of your stories and it is a must that we do another program of “The Eastern Family and Their Eastern Brats! to show the world that Eastern’s Legacy will always go on in the future!


Love and thanks to all the “Eastern Brats” and to their “Eastern Parents”!


Dorothy on Behalf of Captain Neal Holland and The EAL Hosts


From: K Allen
To: Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Re: EAL Radio Show Broadcast "The Eastern Family And Their Eastern Brats"
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:10:39 PM

Thank you Dorothy. I absolutely loved the show last eve, Your the greatest!!!

K. Allen
From: George Jehn
To: normajean; Capt Neal; Dorothy; Chuck
Subject: Re: Another wonderful radio show.
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:08:08 AM

Hi All,

Sorry that I couldn't be on the show last night.It sounds like it was a really good one!

From: normajean borger
To: Capt Neal; Dorothy; George;Chuck
Subject: Another Wonderful Radio Show.
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 7:26:48 AM
Attachments: IMG_4395.JPG

As Bob Hope used to say, "Thanks for the memories". The children of the hosts, plus Chuck Allbright's memories were so wonderful. Chuck's Memories were unforgettable.

This little plaque of my husband's was always a reminder to me to watch my words. Normajean

Date : August 28, 2017
Name : Lizabeth Minuto
Subject: : Halloween Show

This Eastern Brat would love to join in that episode as a cast member! I am Estan and Linda Fuller's daughter.



From: Charles Maynard
To: EAL Radio Show <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: EAL Radio Show Breaking News, August 28, 2017, Episode 332
Date: Tue On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:00 PM


Heather and I would love to be there, but it seems the convention is always during Tailhook weekend in Reno. Since I am a Board member of the A-7 Corsair II Association, I am obligated to be there for our annual gathering.

Looking forward to seeing pictures.

Charles Maynard, Sent from my iPad

Comments: Episode 331, Aging Infrastructure, August 21, 2017

This listener has the following comment: 

Date: August 22, 2017

From: John Stephen Lane Sr.


I would argue that "other airports" around the world are irrelevant to American tastes and needs. Yes, many of our airports have needs, but they cost money. This is a nation which refuses to accept the concept that infrastructure is a moving object. We wait till someone breaks before we argue about whose going to pay for it, after, of course, all the finger pointing. This is a downside of a free and democratic society. If the Chinese, for example, see a need, they just build it. No hassles, no arguing, they just do it. In the U.S. the environmental impact studies could take a decade after all the lawsuits are settled.


Date: August 22, 2017

From: Dorothy Gagnon

Great show last evening, Neal. Just what we all need to keep thinking about American airports and keeping strong.

The chosen topic last night was very informative, and what we need to keep our airport infrastructure in the minds of not just our listeners but the public eye. We all need to ensure that some of our tax dollars are placed into funding U.S. airports’ aging infrastructure around our country. As Americans we must keep ahead of the other countries’ airports to keep strong.


Thank You Note For Caring

Dear Eastern Family,

Don and I want to personally thank all of our Eastern Family for their thoughts and prayers for Don on his recent Lung Resection surgery for a Melanoma at the base of his left lung, that Don was operated on July 5, 2017. We thank God that we had good news, that though a lump 12mm in size was a cancer Melanoma, it didn't spread into lymph nodes or anywhere, nor was there any infection. Therefore he did not have to have any Chemo or Immunotherapy treatments. We were so happy to hear that, and thank God for giving us that great news.

Today, August 16, 2017, Don had a follow up visit with the Thoracic Surgeon, and the X-rays he examined were great and Don is doing well. A little more time and he'll be back to his wonderful, humorous self. Again we Thank God, and those of you for all your prayers to God on Don's behalf. Thank You, thank you, thank you from the bottom of our hearts.

We love you Eastern!

Dorothy & Don Gagnon


Comments on Episode 330 "Embracing A Loved One with Alzheimer’s or Dementia" and K. Allen, Author and Guest Host

To: Dorothy
Cc: Capt Neal
Subject: Monday night Radio Show
Date: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:05:18 AM

His comments about not bathing and wearing soiled clothing is dead center. I finally accepted it and just had to ignore it as people did not know either of us. He would also take clothing into bathroom, run the water in shower but not shower and simply change his clothes.

Attending local Alzheimer's meetings for 3-4 years made me realize these stories are all alike; just change the names and gender.Shortly before he snapped, he kept saying, "something is wrong with me" so they are PAINFULLY aware of their condition.

Eastern Member


From: Jim Holder
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 5:03 PM
To: 'Dorothy Gagnon'
Subject: RE: Spectacular Program As Guest Speaker on The EAL Radio Show Last Evening, Topic "Embracing A Loved One with Alzheimer’s or Dementia"


I agree 100%. He was very knowledgeable.

From: dcgagnon
Date: 8/15/17 8:36 AM (GMT-05:00)
Everett Holland <[email protected]>
Subject: Fantastic & Educational Broadcast, Monday Evening August 14, 2017, Episode 330, "Embracing A Loved One with Alzheimer’s or Dementia"


This was a fantastic broadcast last evening and you put together an amazing script with the research you did on both Dementia and Alzheimer's and outlying all the questions we needed to ask the author, K. Allen that it was enlightening in every way.

This is a very needed program for all of us in the age bracket that Alzheimer's hits, and having K. Allen point out the statistics needed to let everyone know so we can educate ourselves with proper supplements to hold off the worsening of a disease should it be in our future. So sorry our caller, Normjean, that when she called into the show we couldn’t hear her well with the broken phone communication, but K. Allen did a wonderful job of answering her questions that he caught her saying.

The broadcast was so informative and the Guest Host, K. Allen was a tremendous educated professional in this field working as a Nurse Supervisor in the Memory facility for over a decade, that we need to schedule another broadcast like this in the future and invite him back to tell us more.

Thank you for not only this Episode topic, but for persevering for the last 7 years to give us this wonderful Eastern Airlines Family a venue to go to every Monday evening and Thursday afternoon to be together with Eastern stories, or like this topic, educational and meaningful to all of us.

Dorothy and Don

From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Show Tonight


You know what? I kind of felt like there would be another follow-up kind of program to do with this subject. I absolutely understand about the time element. That man, Ken, got in my heart last night, Neal. What a self-less person he is. I would love it if he could even pop in for a couple of minutes on our "Eastern Brats," show. That is awesome to think that he could become one of our regulars. I hope that he enjoyed doing our show enough so that
he would join us when it would be at all possible for him to do so. We know that he is an important person & his work is important.

I don't remember who it was who mentioned the coconut oil, (Don I think) but did you notice that he really "knows the scoop" about natural remedies. He knows that for years we have been told that Cholesterol is bad for us & here, now we know, the brain must have Cholesterol.

It's understandable that people coming on a radio show, it takes a little getting used to, but I think that Ken "really shined" when he got to talking about natural remedies & how to become acquainted with every day life, living with a loved one who has Alzheimer's.

I would like also to mention about how two people are responsible for bringing it all together...  these good subjects, creative scripts, attractive visual displays & then coordinating the whole production of the Radio Show with their particular type of communication which is always professional & relational. HHmm..I wonder who these two people are....?



From: normajean borger
To: Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Re: Fantastic & Educational Broadcast, Monday Evening August 14, 2017 Episode 330 "Embracing A Loved One with Alzheimer"s or Dementia"
Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 1:45:39 PM

Agree 100%. Love to hear him again.

By the way, in 2011 "The 36 Hour Day" was the first book I read from the library and subsequently purchased
From Amazon. Our libraries have excellent books and other reading material. Also, last year another book, "Surviving Alzheimer's", was published and also available from Amazon. Barry Peterson, a well-known journalist who wrote Jan's Story; this is a quick read and not like text books. Like some of them.

From: George Jehn
To: Neal Holland; Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Tonight"s Show - Alzheimer"s
Date: Monday, August 14, 2017 10:10:57 PM

Hi Neal and Dorothy,

I couldn't make it to the end of tonight's show because my phone died again. But I have to tell you that I thought it was one of the absolute best and most interesting. Great job!

From: Terry Heaton
To: "EASTERN [email protected] NEW GENERATION"
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: Talking about Dementia and Alzheimer's

Terry Heaton commented on your post in EASTERN [email protected] NEW GENERATION. Will try to tune in.
I met Capt. Eddie three times at LGA. He shook my hand and said "welcome aboard". A real hero.

Neal Holland 6:34pm Aug 14

Talking about Dementia and Alzheimer's with the author of "Remembering What I Forgot," Mr. Ken Allen. During our show we pay a special tribute in song and music. Be with us for this very important Episode 330. We leave the Gate Monday, August 14th at 7:00 PM EDT. See you on-board. Tune-in www.blogtalkradio.com/capteddie Call-in 213-816-1611 CaptEddie Online Radio by CaptNeal
Date: Aug 14, 2017 8:59 PM
Subject: Show
To: Dorothy Gagnon <[email protected]>

I wanted to say THANK YOU Dorothy for tonight's opportunity to speak on the broadcast. You, Neal and all the others gave me the chance of a lifetime and I cannot say enough for all the positive comments/feedback on my book. It has helped me to believe in my ministry of comforting those suffering from AD.

I truly love the Eastern family.

Thanks again and I look forward to the Eastern Brats episode on the 28th.


The National Air and Space Museum, Washington, DC

To: Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Air & Space Museums
Date: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:35:18 AM
Attachments: A&S Building.tiff

Hi, Dorothy—

Yep, that’s the “tin shed” (right photo) I knew in my youth. See  https://airandspace.si.edu/history-0.

The present Air & Space Museum on the Mall opened in 1976 and receives millions of visitors every year. It is a very handsome and attractive building; three city blocks long. A & S looking west down Independence Avenue. That’s the Smithsonian Castle at the end of the street. The dome showing over the trees (left photo).


Left: Vintage "Tin Shed" Building, Right: Present Building - Donated photos by Elizabeth Haynes

Comments Episode 329, “Airline Near Collisions…Successful Incident or Not!”

To: Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Re: Yes - Go Right Ahead - RE: [ROWF] Fwd: Wind shear
Date: Monday, August 07, 2017 10:01:53 PM
Attachments: image001.png - image002.png

Hi, Dorothy—

Excellent radio program tonight! Thanks for mentioning my comments about the Smithsonian. It is truly a wonderful museum complex and a national treasure!

I haven’t been to the new Museum of African-American History yet. Admission is free, but it is so popular that people have to get tickets in advance for timed entry. Maybe the crowds will slack off in the dead of winter . . . All I can do is wait . . .
Air & Space on the Mall is over a million square feet of exhibit space, and the Udvar-Hazy at Dulles is even larger, with plenty of room for expansion. Exhibits can land at Dulles and be towed over to the museum grounds. Quite an improvement over the “tin shed”! That’s a World War I tank in front.

Thanks for permission to use your pilots’ wind shear correspondence with the ROWF group. I’m sure they’ll be fascinated to get the pilots’ points of view. I’ll strip off all personal information first.

Keep ‘em flying, — Libby

Comments on "If I Had Wings To Fly" Episode

Donated Photos by Jason Wilson

From: Jason Wilson <e_jw[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Eastern L1011 model
Date: Thu 08-03-2017 12:25 AM


Listening to the "If You Had Wings" episode brought back great memories of being five years old in 1979 and visiting Disney World.  My parents sure got tired of going on that ride 100 times over. I desperately wanted that 1011 model hanging in the entrance and spent years trying to find it.  I didn't get the exact one, but I think I found one very close. As far as I know, this particular model was built by Lockheed and given to Eastern as a gift when the first L1011's began to arrive. This model is still in excellent condition and I thought maybe you would like to see it.



From: Elizabeth Haynes
To: Holland Neal <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: EAL Radio Episode 329, 330 & 331 and Eastern Files #38
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 20:33:36 -0400

Hi, Neal—

Thanks for your message about upcoming Radio Shows.  I really enjoy listening to them.

On your August 7 broadcast, you might want to mention how “Air Force One” got that call sign!


Comments on Episode 328, "Wrong Airport Landings"

From: Michael Simses
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 2:21 PM
Subject: Thank you!


Thanks again, Neal, for your help with contacting the Mexico City pilots, tracking down the origins of the Flight Safety oven story, and getting in touch with Enid Grigg.


I'm looking forward to the show on Monday, and to George's history of EAL--just bought a Kindle copy. 


All best, Michael Simses

Note: Michael Simses say if you have any information to share on this please send him an E-mail at
Email Address : [email protected] Thanks for helping him.



From: normajean borger
To: Dorothy; Capt Neal
Subject: Great Show!
Date: Monday, July 31, 2017 9:17:53 PM

Great show. Glad we can go back into archives for things we missed


Date : 7/31/17
Name : John Steinmetz
Subject: : Today's Episode

Hi Neal, 

Thank you so much for help in promoting this year's REPA convention. I loved the show and glad I had a couple actual real EAL stories to tell. I am sorry that I dropped off line but my cell phone went dead and I couldn't get it back til after y'all had finished the show. See you in BHM next month

Thanks again,


Comments on Alzheimer Episode

To: "'EAL Radio Show'" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: EAL Radio Episode 328, 329, 330 & From The Eastern Files #37
Date: Wed 07-26-2017 06:24 PM

What a good idea. It has touched all of us somehow. I lost my mom to Alzheimer, my step dad to dementia. My family is riddled with Alzheimer; uncles, aunts, grandparents. My brother and I chose not to have children, loving kids all of our lives, volunteering to do anything for kids but did not want to continue passing this gene.

This will be a good show.
Alexa Conway


Comments on July 3, 2017 Episode

To: [email protected]
Subject: July 3 Blog
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 23:14:01 -0400

Hi, Neal—

          Thanks for the show and the news blog listing the upcoming programs.  

          I think I caught an error in date, and one in wording—

          July 10, Air Traffic Controllers

          July 17, No show:  Enjoy your vacation!

          July 24, “another great show”  Yep!  No errors so far. 

Then comes a reference to Episode 327 on Monday, July 27.  Nope.  That Monday is July 31.  That’s the date error.


          And the museum complex is the Smithsonian Institution, not Institute.   That error in wording is common, but it still isn’t correct.  And it really bothers people who are connected to the Institution.  I grew up with it from childhood, from when the airplane collection was in the "tin shed" behind the Smithsonian Castle on the Mall.  My father would take me downtown on the bus and streetcar to go see the airplanes, including Rickenbacker’s

Nieuport, a Spad from his squadron, and The Spirit of St. Louis, which totally awed me.

          My husband retired from the USAF as a command pilot in 1964, then worked a full second career for the Smithsonian and retired from civil service in 1984.  So you can see I am involved with the Institution!  Now I stand in awe of the Discovery space shuttle and the SR-71 Blackbird (which looks wicked just standing on the floor) in the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center at Dulles.


          Thanks for listening to me! Have a bang-up Fourth,—Libby


To:  EAL Radio Show <[email protected]>
Subject:  Re: EAL Radio Show Breaking News July 3. 2017, Episode 325
Date:  Mon 07-03-2017 09:29 PM

Enjoyed the show tonight - thank you all for keeping Eastern alive for us…love listening to the music, too!!  I have so many memories…started in PVD on November 19, 1959 as a res agent in a very small office on the top floor of a dilapidated building in downtown Providence.  It was really scary at night…no one else in the building!  It was a ‘round table’ operation with about 9 employees…but only about 2 or 3 on at a time….nothing computerized!  I had many, many different positions between then and when I left in January, 1991, as Zone Mgr. - Special Service Team in Departure Services/ATL.  I loved working there and have so very many stories to tell……I’m now living on a mountaintop in the north Georgia mountains close to the FAA Towers!

Thank you all for your efforts! Happy Freedom Day……
Roslyn Cady Rush

Comments on Episode 322

To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: EAL Radio Show Breaking News, Monday, June 12, 2017, Episode 322
Date: Wed 06-14-2017 10:49 PM



To: [email protected]
Subject: Yesteryear
Date: Wed 06-14-2017 05:18 PM

Thanks for all you do! Wanted to let you know I now have my first published work online at Amazon, Remembering What I Forgot. So many today
are afflicted by Alzheimer's that I actually felt it necessary to share my story.

Listening to the show takes me back to the farm I was raised on in
Maryland. I was in kindergarten when dad upgraded to the DC-9 and held a hard line out of Friendship. The year was 1969. The Wings of Man(y) took me back to that very time. Thanks for keeping the nostalgia ALIVE!

Ken Boring

Comments on Episode 322 "Privatization of Air Traffic Control"

From: Everett Holland
To: Jeff Lewis; Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Re: Great Observation - RE: Thank You
Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:58:24 PM


I'm sorry not to have gotten back with you before now. I teach a real estate class
with an early start this morning. Thank you very much for your very informative participation last night. We all took away knowledge that we probably did not have before the broadcast. I know I did.

I would like to extend an invitation to come on
the show whenever you feel you have time. If you don't mind, I will include you in future show scripts when they are emailed to our regular hosts. I hope you have visited our website www.ealradioshow.com and registered so that you might browse the pages of Eastern history, stories, news and videos offered on the site. I hope you tell others about our radio broadcasts and of the Eastern Airlines website.

Wishing you and your family the best and hope you keep us "tuned" in.

Neal Holland, Retired Captain/Eastern Airlines
Producer, EAL Radio Show

From: Jeff Lewis Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 11:45 PM
To: George Jehn Cc: Everett Holland; Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Re: Thank You


FWIW, one of the more interesting takeaways I got from the show was a deeper look at the EAL demise; somewhat indirectly, but largely from hearing the group discuss even now, what happened so long ago. I was certainly aware of a lot of the EAL history (reading George's book taught me a lot about that), but the type of people, and how much they care, was made a lot more clear tonight.


The other thing, related, is realizing how much my whistleblower retaliation experience at FAA mirrors ​what you guys did and continue to do. Put simply: whistleblowers care, and ignore the potential political repercussions for thinking freely and occasionally questioning authority. It seems that, regardless of whether a person works in a civil service bureaucracy, in a bank or nuclear processing plant or airline or other private sector organization, they become a ready target in our culture, just for speaking up against the flow.


Anyway, thanks again.

Jeff Lewis


From: George Jehn
To: Jeff Lewis; Everett Holland
Cc: Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Re: Thank You


Hey Jeff,

I just saw your email. Thank you for coming on the show. I thought that you contributed a lot that none of us “non controllers” would otherwise have known.

After each show, I always wonder what it would have been like if Eastern was still in business. I say that because having flown for two major airlines, in my opinion not only did Eastern have absolutely the best pilots, but also the very best free thinkers who could arrive at their own decisions. What a shame that our airline is no longer around.

Kudos to Neal and Dorothy for keeping the unique Eastern spirit alive.

Thanks again,



From: Jeff Lewis
To: Everett Holland
Cc: George Jehn; Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Thank You
Date: Monday, June 12, 2017 8:55:12 PM

Hi Neal (et al). Thanks for the invite and I enjoyed the show. It really is a lot of fun to hear people who care.

This link is to a NATCA statement about Nextgen two years into the program, back in 2005. Reading this alone, and comparing it to the present pitch being pushed via 'collaboration' between FAA, A4A, NATCA, Shuster (and now Trump) is very interesting, IMHO.http://aireform.com/working-to-solve-the-problems-created-by-Nextgen/3/

Thanks, Jeff


From: George Jehn
To: Neal Holland; Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Jeff
Date: Monday, June 12, 2017 9:31:44 PM

Dear Dorothy and Neal,

I hope you enjoyed having Jeff on the radio show. I thought that he contributed a lot of “insider” information that none of us would have otherwise known. Great, informative show tonight.


From: Dan Vician
To: EAL Radio Show <[email protected]>
Subject: EAL Radio Show and Clyde Roach
Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 18:21:37 +0000 (UTC)

Howdy Radio Show Volunteers


First off, thank you to all for carrying on the spirit of EAL through your radio show.  I think it is a tremendous effort, and rewarding one I'm sure for all who participate or just listen.

As you have likely read on the Silver Falcons and rEAL email distribution lists, Clyde Roach passed last Sunday. As he was a WWII veteran, you may want to make mention of him in Monday's show, and/or you may want to do a show just on him in the future.  I should be able to connect you to his daughter at that time. I did not know Clyde, but have a friend who knows his daughter (who I have met).  It is from his daughter that the information regarding his passing is being distributed on the EAL pilot sites.


I've also just sent the following to Jim Holder:  A tidbit of information for our pilot readers - in 1998 Clyde wrote a book entitled:  "Confessions of an Airline Pilot - My Life with Eastern Airlines." It is available on Amazon.  The Amazon site states this about his book: "In this fascinating book, Clyde Roach tells the story of his long career with Eastern Air Lines. It's all there, from his boyhood in the then-small town of Miami, Florida, through war-time experiences dropping airborne troops from a C-47 over Normandy, to crash landing a Boeing 727 at Carswell Air Force Base in Texas."  Note: There is also a picture of Clyde on the cover of his book, at the Amazon site. If you type in the following into your search bar you'll get the links to Clyde, his book, and his picture: "Confessions of an Airline Pilot Clyde E. Roach"


Regards and thank you all again for your work with the Radio show!


Dan Vician


Date : 5/23/17
Name : Annie Flodin
Subject: : Airways Magazine story

 I just wanted to thank you for linking to my Airways Magazine story about United Flight 3411. I LOVE Eastern Airlines... my parents met as flight attendants on Eastern in the 80s and I believe that's why Aviation is in my blood.

Thanks again!

Comments on Episode 319: Hey Buffalo, this is Eastern 319.

From: George Jehn
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:56 PM
To: Neal Holland; Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: show

Hi Dorothy and Neal,

It seems to me that the EAL Radio show is really catching on with folks who have never listened in before. I
believe this is because of all the effort that both of you put into it. Congratulations.

From: Karlene Petitt
To: Linda Fuller
Subject: Re: Superb show
Date: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:27:32 AM

As always the show was excellent!!! I am so glad you are all keeping Eastern alive!

XOX Karlene
Karlene Petitt
MBA. MHS. Doctoral Candidate Aviation ERAU
Typed: A330, B747-400, B747-200, B767, B757, B737, B727

From: Jim Holder
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:42 AM
To: 'dcgagnon'Cc; 'Everett Holland';
Subject: RE: Superb show

Yes…. I remember those places too…

Especially the Red Diamond as I had the “not so proud” honor of being probably one of the very few Eastern
Pilots ever kicked out there…

Again my career and reputation was sullied by Captain Charlie Martykan (the biggest event clearly was
Waterloo) as his behavior that night was quite embarrassing, not only to his co-pilot (whose name escapes me)
but also to my captain, Chuck Wolters, one of the nicest gentlemen who ever wore the Eastern Pilot uniform…

Oh Well… At least we were dressed in civilian attire!

Jim Holder


From: normajean borger
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:12 AM
To: dcgagnon
Subject: Superb show

All of you make our Monday nights another "rich" experience and all of us appreciate it very much. I agree with Chuck that Dorothy does work hard and tirelessly for all of us.

Capt. Neal must stay up half the night deciding on the "just right" music at the right time to enhance the Radio Show. All of the hosts really do a great job making the Radio show something for us to look forward to, and Jim Holder's stories keep me laughing long after the show is over.

Someone mentioned a restaurant where "everyone in Miami " went to eat but was so noisy but always fun place and The Chesapeake House on 36th street, as well as The Red Diamond---Italian with the diamond checked tablecloths come to mind. Think The Red Diamond was on Lejeune Road, but not sure. My memory is not what it used to be. In the 1960s I could go to a filing cabinet and find correspondence or a wiring diagram of an airplane six months later without any delay.

Dorothy's laugh is infectious and always enjoy listening to her. Jim Holder said he is Southern and I can only imagine all of you together when you are not constrained by the FCC.

All the best
From: dcgagnon
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:00 AM
To: Chuck Allbright Cc: Everett Holland;
Subject: Thank You For Accolades


Thank you so much for the beautiful accolades you gave me tonight on our EAL Radio Broadcast. Your words
meant a great time deal to me.

I am so happy to be able to give Neal the assistance he deserves and needs, for giving all our Eastern Family the
radio broadcast. This is an EAL "forum" where we can talk easily to tell our Eastern stories and bring some fun
in the memories we collect week after week. Either through scripts he takes the time to create or ideas on topics
to discuss openly. This is all done by him, plus before he carried the website.

My being able to supplement the show with enhancing the website to make it "our" EAL website gives me great
pleasure, and if I can, in turn, help Neal to keep our EAL members going to the website and recapturing some
past Episodes, additional Eastern History articles, as well as up to date Breaking news, etc., that will encourage
more members to join and perhaps donate to keep it going, I am happy to do so.

Remember too, this is a collective efforts of all of our Hosts that give of themselves each week freely to make
it a great and interesting Broadcast. All of their participation is so gratefully received.

I am sure your kind compliments on the website tonight too, will encourage our listeners to go there and see all
the new articles we have up there.

Again my thanks for your thoughtfulness.


From: Alex Conway
To: Everett Holland <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 9:29 PM
Subject: thx!


I had fun! I had really expected to hear from others. Several had said they were calling in but I can understand with so few calls being able to actually get through I guess. I was on the phone for almost 2 full hours and that's a bunch of battery and minutes. bless their hearts. I wanted them to be able to tell their own stories, not just mine.

I'm so glad you have Dorothy doing so much stuff. I know it's been weighing on you. I hated letting my website go. it really hurt my heart but after about a month I finally realized I felt the weight of it free me and I know it was the right decision.

Take good care Neal.

Boy, when the story about the steak started, I had a really bad feeling about the guy with his pants halfway down. I thought he was in the aft galley and almost died at the way it seemed to be going. hahaha!

Great story!



From: Everett Holland [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:07 PM
To: Jim Holder; Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Radio Show

Great show tonight because of stories like yours. I think we out to have regular segment called "All the Stories From Here and There - From Time to Time." Great show and nice gesture to sending copy of REPArtee to
Shea Oakley. Thanks for being with us. Neal

From: Everett Holland [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:10 PM
To: Chuck Allbright; Linda Fuller; Karlene Petitt; Don Gagnon; Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Tonight's Show

Great show tonight and thanks for participating. One of our best. Neal

From: Everett Holland [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 7:59 PM
To: alexaconway
Subject: Re: thx!

Thanks for the idea for the show and special thanks for being on tonight. We had callers but not enough time to take all the calls on the board. Lots of folks call but just listen in. This was the longest show we have ever done as we usually go about one hour and ten minutes.

I hope you can be on future shows and I will put you on the list to receive the script for the shows. If you find any that you would like to participate then you know how to call in.

Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 8:37 PM
To: 'Dorothy Gagnon'
Subject: RE: Silverliners Featured on EAL Radio Show Monday Night - April 24

Dear Dorothy,

Thank you, I just finished listening to the tape and my friend Bob heard it all the way through. It was very interesting.

Back about 1956, we were landing in D.C. I was the only Flt,. Attendant on a Falcon, 40 passenger. The Captain called me up and said prepare for an emergency landing ( I hadn’t been flying too long). On landing all the fire trucks and etc. were there. All deplaned safely. The crew then took me to see a hole near engine, said we couldn’t have stayed up very long. I cried and said I quit and when it was time for the boarding of the Fight, they put me at end of steps to take the passengers tickets. I was crying all the while, but we made it to BOS .They said if they hadn’t made me go back on the flight, I would have never flown again.

Flying, Silverliners, etc. have made my life full.

Lois Jirschele Morton

From: Elizabeth Haynes
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: EAL Radio Show Episode 33 "From The Eastern Files," Thursday. May 18, 2017
Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 16:00:25 -0400

Hi, Neal and Dorothy—

No answer needed, but this will amuse you. 

At 2:45 I woke up my computer and found your message; so I tuned up Episode 33 and listened to it while I was culling old paper files from my desk drawer.  It was very interesting, and I’m so glad I tuned in. 

The speaker said that an Eastern plane was the first to land at DCA the day the airport opened.  My first salaried job was as a waitress in the coffee shop at DCA on the day the airport opened! 

I was 15 years old and too young to work under Virginia’s child labor laws, so I wasn’t paid any wages, but I could keep my tips.  On my 16th birthday, I was called into the manager’s office and given all my back pay.  That was a nice surprise; it had never been mentioned.  Just being around the airplanes was good enough!

I’m so glad I got in contact with you folks!



From: Elizabeth Haynes <[email protected]>
To: EAL Radio Show <[email protected]>
Subject: The Wings of the Man(y)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 09:54:37 -0400

Hi, Neal—

Just want to let you know the book was delivered yesterday and I picked it up late last night. I read “Flight 855” first! Glad I heard the dramatization, though. That really brought this story to life. If you haven’t done so, perhaps you should send a copy to Captain
Sullenberger . . .I shall enjoy reading all the rest of it.

No need to answer this.

Thanks, —Libby

From: Constance Kerrigan <[email protected]>
To: Everett Holland <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 2:11 PM
Subject: Silverliners and the Radio Show


Hi Neal,


Have had a lot of feedback and all good!  Would like to offer the opportunity to perhaps do a quarterly show by the Silverliners with their input as to topic and leaders.


Would you be open to that? Conni


Comments on Vietnam Helicopter Memorial

From: Elizabeth Haynes
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: EAL Radio Episode #309
Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 22:45:01 -0400

Thank you, Dorothy,

Just now I sent a donation to the Radio Show through PayPal.  It didn’t mention the book, but I would like very much to receive a copy of Wings of Man(y).  Several of the others in your list are of interest, too, and I’ll come back to your newsletter to to think about buying some of them!

I clicked on the News heading on your radio site and found the paragraph about the pending monument to Vietnam helicopter pilots to be built in Arlington National Cemetery.  The site wouldn’t let me go further on the See more…  link, but shunts me to a site to sign up as a member.  Am I allowed to do that?  I have no real connection with Eastern, you know, just an emotional affinity!

Dan Dennison, one of the forceful proponents of the Vietnam pilots’ memorial, is a very good friend of mine.  For many years we were both members of the same American Legion Post, The Unknown Soldier Post 44 of Arlington.  (The Post’s project is doing nice things for the Tomb Guards.)  Dan was instrumental in getting the bill through Congress which has now been passed.  The helicopter pilots hope that money can be raised and the modest monument erected by the end of next year.  I’ll let him know that your association is interested in following this story.  A couple of weeks ago, Dan told me they have received permission to place it in a landscaped circle created in a street intersection within the cemetery, so it won’t impinge on any available grave space.

I really enjoyed hearing the old flying songs on your show last night.  One verse of “Give Me Operations” has stuck in my mind for years, but I had no idea what the name of the song was, only that one evening in the Rathskeller of the O. Club we went through the entire Air Force inventory with ditties like this:

Don’t give me a P-38.  She has props that counter rotate.
She’ll stall and she’ll spin and she’ll soon auger in. 
Don’t give me a P-38.

Oh, it just doesn’t come across in typescript, does it.  

To the tune of My Bonnie Lies over the Ocean:
I asked for the weather at Torbay.  They say that they really don’t know.
The forecaster’s lost on the runway. They think that the ceiling is low.
At Goose there’s a hole in the ceiling. They say that it’s thirty feet wide.
But I have an uncertain feeling, the whole thing is just local pride.
Rolls in, oh it rolls in!  My God how that fog bank rolls in, rolls in!
Rolls in, oh it rolls in, my God how that fog bank rolls in.

—and so on, through all the bases in Northeast Air Command. That was a fun evening.

And yes, one foggy night I was out on the runway at Torbay with a walky-talky looking for holes in the ceiling;  there were 17 C-54s.

Comments of Memorial to Captain Thompson



Thank you for writing me to let me know that the EAL Radio Show April 22, 2017 Memorial Episode for Captain Steve Thompson, worked perfectly for you and your close friend. We are happy to hear that you both enjoyed the audio. Yes it was very interesting and very scary too.


Listening to that tape, I can well imagine that it made you feel like you did back in 1956 with the Emergency that you were a part of that day. Your story is moving as well, as anyone who has had that sort of experience and was able to be around to talk about it, gives us all a sense of security knowing how well the pilots and crew perform to maintain safety flying, until you reach the ground.


Thanks again for sharing your story. I will post this up on our website for our members to hear of your successful landing!




From: Lois Morton
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 8:37 PM
To: 'Dorothy Gagnon'
Subject: RE: Silverliners Featured on EAL Radio Show Monday Night - April 24


Dear Dorothy,


Thank you, I just finished listening to the tape and my friend Bob heard it all the way through.  It was very interesting.


Back  about 1956, we were landing in D.C. I was  the only Flt,. Attendant on a Falcon, 40 passenger. The Captain called me up and said prepare for an emergency landing ( I hadn’t been flying too long). On landing all the fire trucks and etc. were there. All deplaned safely.


The crew then took me to see a hole  near engine, said we couldn’t have stayed up very long. I cried and said I quit and when it was time for the boarding of the Fight, they put me at end of steps to take the passengers tickets. I was crying all the while, but we made it to BOS .They said if they hadn’t made me go back on the flight, I would have never flown again. Flying, Silverliners, etc. have made my life full.


Lois Jirschele Morton


From: Dorothy Gagnon
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 6:44 PM
Cc: 'Everett Holland'; Constance Kerrigan
Subject: RE: Silverliners Featured on EAL Radio Show Monday Night - April 24


Hi all,


Not sure why you were not able to complete the Flight 855 tape on the Dedication to Captain Steve Thompson as I just listened to the entire tape and all of it worked fine. Here is the hyperlink to that tape in the event you want to replay it again.  A very moving recording not only for the event it mentions, but hearing Steve’s voice.




From: Robert Heil
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:32 AM
To: Lois Morton
Subject: Re: FW: Silverliners Featured on EAL Radio Show Monday Night - April 24


What the hell happened?

Love you, Bob


On 4/28/2017 11:31 AM, Robert Heil wrote:

it was fascinating listening to the tape of flight 885, but it quit before the end of the tape.  would you send it again? Or you could just tell me how the flight ended.


On 4/23/2017 11:56 AM, Lois Morton wrote:

Thought you would enjoy listening,


From: Elizabeth Haynes
To:[email protected]
Received-On:04-25-2017 10:14 PM
Subject:EAL Radio Episode #309More...

Thank you, Dorothy— It is great to make your acquaintance! Judging by what I’ve heard from Jim Holder, you are the go-to person who makes everything function properly. Jim instructed me through the necessary steps to hear the radio broadcasts on my computer, and those links are working just fine now. I look forward to listening to #309 very soon!

Last night, I heard the script in memory and tribute to Captain Steve Thompson, and it held me spellbound to the very end. Would it be possible for me to get a copy of that in writing—i.e., an MS Word or Mac Pages document in an e-mail? Any plain text format would be just fine. I am beginning to assemble a notebook of my favorite flying stories as a keepsake for my heirs. I’ll be glad to trade you back some such stories, too.

My background was USAF—in March 1951 I enlisted for Officer Candidate School and was commissioned in September. I served as a flight weather forecaster. Married in June 1954, and was discharged for pregnancy a year later. My husband was commissioned from aviation cadets in March 1942 and flew C-47s, C-54s, and C-124s until retiring from the USAF in 1964.

The Eastern people are so very much the same kind of people as the USAF transport types I knew so well. Thank you ever so much for your help.

Libby Haynes

Comments on "Passenger Handling" Episode
To: Everett Holland <[email protected]>

Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 9:52 AM


I enjoyed .... telling of the Fleetwood Mac episode!  I think what is happening with the airlines and the people who fly is very disturbing.  We seem to have lost what it means to be a civilized society!  So much anger and so little concern for our fellow human beings. What ever happened to self-control?!  I don't know, Neal ~ it isn't always about alcohol, although that is the culprit in many cases ~ but just the lack of good manners is so evident ~ and the airlines must take responsibility for their part in some of the frustration, too.  We both knew of a 'softer' humanity, didn't we? The happenings that were spoken of on your show was not the norm as it now seems to be.  Crap! and Dang!


Doris Gillenwaters

Naples, FL


From: Gail Rothrock
To: Neal Holland; Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Last night's radio program
Date: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:00:05 AM

Hello! was able to listen to most of the broadcast last night..good stories, info, etc. You guys are really a superior, professional group of people. So glad to be associated with you! Keep up the good work. While I was listening to the program, I was on the Dunedin causeway watching the sun do down. Captured some more beautiful sunset photos...will post later.

Take care,

P.S. anymore talk of another reunion? And, is EAL ever going to become a commercial airline again?


From: Gail Rothrock
To: Everett Holland <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: Last night's radio program


Will visit the web-site soon. Dorothy always does a great job!​


From: Gail Rothrock
To: Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Re: Thank You - RE: Last night"s radio program
Date: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 11:46:08 AM
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Will visit the new web-site soon... Thank you for all you do for EAL family.


Comments on the Pilots Shortage with ERAU Episode

From: Mary Block

Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 8:21 AM
To: Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Another testimonial

Hi Neal,

So sorry for the late response. A couple unexpected things came up that required a bit of attention, along with trying to get ready for the upcoming Lewis and Clark trip. In a few days I will send you a list of the cities we will be going through on our way to Oregon. We will be starting the week of May 21st.

I so enjoyed week before last's program on pilot shortage. So interesting and very educational. I was also able to listen to the Sat program for Steve Thompson. What a wonderful person he was. I hope this finds all well with you and your family.


P.S. Love the trailers.


From: Wiggins, Michael E
Subject: Re: Monday Radio Show
Date: Monday, May 01, 2017

Hi Dorothy,

Thanks again for the opportunity. I enjoyed the show. It made me remember several of the fights I had as a pax on EAL years go.

Take care, Mike


From: normajean borger
To: George; Capt Neal; Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Hey there. Fascinating guests.
Date: Monday, May 01, 2017

I really enjoyed hearing Mike Wiggins speaking about  ERAU, and what they are doing day in and day out.  They really seem to be doing everything right.

Pilot shortage was predicted some 15-20 years ago as I recall.  Seem to remember the ATL Constitution predicted it. As well as A&P shortage.

 ERAU class of 1962 of A&Ps was hired by EASTERN.  My husband was in that class and his first Day at Eastern was October 30, 1962.  Wonder if an airline today hires entire class? Doubtful I think.

I know technology has changed the world, but most of us still want the experienced ones "behind the wheel".  

 The Flight engineers strike was how long..? 4 months...?? So EAL must have lost a lot of People to be willing to hire a whole class. 


Comments on Eastern Disney Episode

By A Happy Listener

Eastern was a fun job. We were so blessed to be there at that point in time. My office was the last door before Gate 14. The funny part was the Agents and Red Coats were always telling the arrivals...women...that the ladies room was the first door on the right (which was my door).  Then I just made sure I locked the door...but then they started beating on my door.  So I just left door unlocked so they instantly realized the ladies room was the "second" door on the right. But every day was different, interesting and exciting chapter. 


Going to Disney was routine for us and we took my granddaughter at 18 months and she never whimpered   We were there 12 hours. She is still easy, at age 38.  We had several years of great memories at EAL at MCO.


My house was in Kissimmee and it was a wonderful time in my life. There was a shortcut from Kissimmee to MCO field so it only took 20 minutes to get to work.  We all remember the "E" tickets.  Glad they got rid of them though.

 Linda Fuller's life was truly interesting and exciting.  She has a great voice and a lot of information to impart.  You and Don both have good radio voices.


Disney World and Eastern Airlines

by George Jehn

I'm sorry that I couldn't be on tonight because I remember MCO well. Heck, I recall that when we from Eastern first flew in there, the terminal on the north side of the field wasn't even air conditioned! But it was definitely a fun time to work for Eastern in a world that was so different back then. We truly were "The Official Airline of Walt Disney World" in every describable way.

My wife and I took our three kids to MCO for a week's vacation, intending to go to Disney World every day. We stayed at the Marriott on International Drive, the same hotel we stayed for layovers.

However, when the kids saw the go-cart track there, they wanted to go on the go-karts all day long instead of going to Disney World! So we only went to Disney World three times, with the rest of the week spent on the go-karts. I think I gave the guy who ran them $100 for each kid, every day, so they could drive them all day long. It was truly a fun time in my life.


Comments on Breaking News

From: "Lee Hutchins"
To: "EAL Radio Show" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: EAL: Radio Show Breaking News - April 25, 2017
Date: Wed 04-26-2017 10:58 AM

I really enjoyed reading the "Breaking News".
Lee Roy Hutchins . Miami 62 - 83
Yahoo Account
To:EAL Radio Show <[email protected]>
Received-On:04-26-2017 11:22 AM
Subject:Re: EAL: Radio Show Breaking News - April 25, 2017More...

EAL will grow.
From: normajean borger
Date: Apr 24, 2017 9:24 PM
Subject: April 24, 2017 - Today's radio show
To: Capt Neal <[email protected]>,Dorothy Gagnon <[email protected]>,George
<[email protected]>

Great show. So informative. I knew Silverliners did a lot of charity but they really workhard and sincerely give back way more than the public knows. Too bad news agency's ignore them. If they got decent news coverage, there
Is no limit to what they could accomplish.

The last comments were dead on center. When I inquired about being a stewardess in early 1950's you had to be a nurse. Some carriers also required English plus one otherlanguage like Spanish or French. And on and on. You had to have 20/20 vision...that eliminated me Immediately. You had to have soooo many things.. like absolute perfection and few of us were that perfect.

Leslie Lynnton Fuller
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, April 20, 2017 10:01:06 PM

Thanks Dorothy!

Mom loves EAL and is excited to talk about its wonderful history. My parents enjoyed sharing their fond memories working for Eastern- Dad Estan Lee Fuller is a retired Captain and Mom Linda Fuller is a stewardess.



Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 12:38:31 PM

Hey Neal and Dorothy,

I just saw your piece about Errol Foreman landing a Cessna jet in Lantana. What I find particularly interesting is that my very first job as a Flight Instructor/Charter Pilot was at the Lantana Airport at Florida Airmotive! Owen Gassaway owned the FBO there and how I landed that first all-important job is a very interesting story, which is too long to tell you in an email.

Then, I next saw about Barbara Barrett. She worked for Zantop, and prior to coming to work at Eastern, I worked for Span Air, the airline that purchased all of Zantop’s pistonaircraft. I flew all night freighters, flying GM auto parts around the country on a C-46. But, what makes it even more interesting is that I was the 727 F/O on Barbara’s very first line trip at Eastern, a 727 QC freighter trip out of JFK.

The point I’m trying to make here is how small our aviation world truly is! I’m going to read both of the full stories on the EAL Radio website as soon as I get back home. Amazing!



From: Karlene Petitt
To: Everett Holland <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: FYI Rec'd Info Today - ERAU’s Aviation Safety and Security Archives


I had a great time listening tonight, but my son-in-law stepped in then a call came, and I had to go. I loved the stories of the past.... they are just awesome!

XXOX Karlene


Request More Information Wanted on Breaking News!

From: George Pharmer
To: Dorothy Gagnon
Subject: Re: EAL Radio Show Breaking News -Rumor of Eastern Air Lines Group
Date: Thursday, March 02, 2017 4:53:46 PM


Tickler info just isn't fair when it comes to rumors. Not everyone can tune into the radio show. How about letting all of us know within your email what is going on.

George P.